





The Challenge is Real!
Church leadership today often feels like playing catch up to trends and what happened at another church, somewhere else, presenting their workshop, conference, or look-see. But, why are we groping for what works somewhere else when we are where we are?
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I think, in the core of our soul, we feel there is a missing element. We do church right, sing the Top 100, have great multimedia and tech, and (let's just be honest,) a very anointed communicator, yet...
According to Gallup research:
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Only 23% of members are actively engaged in pursuing a spiritually invested life, becoming a disciple.
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58% are “quiet quitting,” doing the bare minimum as a believer instead of following Jesus in promise and practice.
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18% are “loud quitting,” actively undermining the mission of the church by complaining, resisting, and staying independent.
This disengagement is demoralizing for a spiritual leader. You feel that you possess and cast a prophetic vision for where God wants to take your church or community, but it’s treated as just another program, not a divine call. ​
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You’ve likely tried fixes, yet you may find commonality with the following...
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75% of pastors feel congregational apathy and disengagement.
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77% of pastors sense frustration in developing disciples who lead others to Jesus well.
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76% of pastors do not feel their church members care about their non-Christian neighbors and community
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63% of pastors say stress to perform is an emotional challenge, while broader trends show 33% considering quitting and 18% grappling with harmful thoughts about themselves.
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​You responded to a divine call to be a difference maker, an effective shepherd, a prophetic servant and you desire to be leading yourself and others in a healthy and spirit-filled manner.
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Let's face the challenge together. Epic, led by Phil Underwood, is about helping churches and ministers discover tools, brainstorm ideas, strategize ministry, encourage faith, and develop disciples.
How? Experiencing the story of Jesus as if he were living in the earth today and imagining how He would send us out of our doors and into the mission that is our calling.
Every Church has a Challenge. Let's Choose to Conquer
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Making Dynamic Disciples
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Developing Spiritual Commitment
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Using Modern AI Technology
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Enhancing Worship Spaces to Tell a Story
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Leveraging Mission Leadership
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Experiencing True Spirit-Filled Lifestyles





